Gollum
Interview
by Mark Hensch
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Wilmington, North Carolina's Gollum have
been clawing their way into the heavy metal scene with a series of unpredictable
assaults starting with 2004's Lesser Traveled Waters. Feral and
rabid, new effort The Core is every bit as hard to pin down – picture
the shimmering wizardry of Death crossed with early Mastodon's claustrophobic
riffing, Tool's mind-bending atmosphere and Meshuggah's inhuman precision.
I drilled deep by talking with guitarist Frank Stroehmer to see what lies
in the heart of darkness dead-center at The Core.
Mark Hensch of Thrashpit.com: Happy
Easter Frank! It is a real pleasure to talk with you today as The Core
is one of the best albums I have heard in a year full of strong releases
thus far.
Frank Stroehmer (guitars): Thanks
man, I appreciate it. I take that as a big compliment.
Thrashpit.com: I read somewhere that
your name is a Yiddish word meaning "shapeless mass." How did you guys
land on this name and how well has it worked out for you thus far?
Frank: The name is originally derived
from the Yiddish word "Goylem." The way it is spelled in the way we use
it comes from the character Gollum in The Lord of the Rings. We did not
think much of using it when we first thought it up as we formed in 1998
and at the time we thought it was a real obscure, dark and mysterious name.
I had originally heard the name from Robert Plant in the Led Zeppelin song
"Ramble On" when he made reference to Gollum in his lyrics. We thought
that was pretty cool. We soon realized that the name came from the Tolkien
books when the Peter Jackson movies elevated the character into the mainstream.
We are really kind of associated with those due to that fact but we are
more attached to the original etymology of the word, which again is the
Yiddish word for "shapeless mass." It fits with out music as even though
we are a metal band we are not contained in any kind of boundary. We are
always experimenting and pushing the envelope. That is how I feel the name
"Gollum" fits with my band.
Thrashpit.com: It is extremely difficult
placing your band into any one genre or category of metal. How would you
describe yourselves to someone who has never heard you before?
Frank: I would say we are a progressive/experimental
metal band. We are not afraid to try something different and we are not
confined to the verse-chorus-verse structure. We like to be very dynamic,
progressive, and experimental. We have never been afraid to explore.
Thrashpit.com: As a region, the American
South is often credited with producing a very distinct brand of metal.
Do you see Gollum as fitting into this tradition or is it something else
entirely?
Frank: Honestly I feel like we are
more on our own. We do fit with a lot of those kinds of bands – mainly
sludge bands – but a lot of venues and clubs have trouble fitting us perfectly
in a bill with other bands. That aspect makes things a little disadvantageous
but at the same time whenever we play with standard metal, metalcore or
hardcore groups we really stick out and that helps. For the most part it
works towards our advantage unless we play to a narrow-minded group of
kids, usually hardcore or metalcore fans. We do not turn on to those kinds
of kids too much I think. We are definitely for more open-minded and/or
musically-inclined people.
Thrashpit.com: Have you guys ever played
a show where you know no matter what people are going to be close-minded
like that?
Frank: For the most part people
we play for are very receptive and we are very well-received. We have been
in certain areas or played in specific crowds however where we are placed
with other bands that all sound the same I guess. There are like three
metalcore or hardcore bands and us and on nights like those the kids are
definitely there just to see and hear hardcore or metalcore. It is like
we really do not fit the mold. It does seem like there is a lot of that
out there.
Thrashpit.com: Let's talk about your
latest full-length record. What is the significance of the title The
Core?
Frank: The title The Core
refers to the purest form of what is inside you. It is like The Core
of all things, that thing which moving forward keeps you centered. That
is what we are referring to as far as the album title.
Thrashpit.com: This is your guys' first
record since 2004's Lesser Traveled Waters. How have you guys changed
in the five years since that album?
Frank: Lesser Traveled Waters
was indeed our 2004 independent release. It got a lot of good reviews and
was generally well-received. We did not, however, have the backing of it
like we do with our current Rotten Records deal for The Core. We
are definitely going to push that as far as we can.
We have changed as far as adding vocals
to the music. We have always stayed true to our song-writing style and
I think we have grown and evolved since then. We have constantly tried
appealing to more people while staying true to our own music.
Thrashpit.com: The album is loaded with
guest appearances such as Scott Angelacos of Hope and Suicide, Randy Blythe
of Lamb of God and Dixie Collins of Weedeater amongst others. How did you
court so many recognizable names and what is their connection to Gollum?
Frank: Well, Randy Blythe from Lamb
of God's mother actually lives here right in Wilmington so we met him years
ago before Lamb of God blew up and anyone knew who they were. We befriended
them going to shows when they were still kind of obscure. Every time he
comes into town he looks us up and we would hang out while he was visiting
his mom. We got to be good friends and he has always been a fan of our
music, always willing to help us out and lend his voice to any guest songs.
He has been on both Lesser Traveled Waters and the current album.
As far as Dixie from Weedeater goes, Weedeater
is from Wilmington as well so we have been friends with them for a long
time. We have played countless shows together and we hang out regularly.
Scott Angelacos from Hope and Suicide is
formerly of Bloodlet if you are familiar with them. A lot of people know
about Bloodlet from back in the day and like Weedeater we have played lots
of shows with them. We just have a lot of friends I suppose (laughs).
Thrashpit.com: Nothing wrong with that
(laughs). The artwork for The Core seems to me simultaneously gritty
and sickly neon in color. Who drew it and how do you think it turned out?
Frank: I am really glad you asked
about that! The cover art was done by world-famous tattoo artist Martin
LaCasse. He was good friends with our former drummer Hunter and before
Hunter passed away he had had conversations with Martin about doing the
album cover. We had a talk with Martin after Hunter passed and he was more
than willing and happy to help us out. I think it turned out great and
Martin is a fantastic tattoo artist. I love the design. If you look at
it closely it is like a hand coming from the very core of the Earth, and
from that perspective, I think it turned out wonderful.
Thrashpit.com: I struggled with bringing
this up at all, but I cannot help thinking that a big part of Gollum came
from this event. What can you say about former Gollum drummer Hunter Holland
(who passed away from a heart attack in 2008)?
Frank: Hunter was very intelligent,
probably one of the smartest people I have ever known. He was also a beast
on the drums, probably one of the best drummers anyone has ever seen or
played with in this band. He has definitely inspired us and left a lot
of himself in this band. He is definitely not gone.
Thrashpit.com: How has the band changed
without Hunter?
Frank: I feel like we have gotten
even tighter and it seems more important than ever to continue pushing
our music. We feel very fortunate to have our new drummer Seth Long. He
has taken a lot of time to learn all of Hunter's drum beats for all the
older songs we had recorded and he does not sound much different. Seth
is actually one of the few drummers I have known and been friends with
that I felt COULD play Hunter's stuff. He is going to bring his own flavor
to the newer songs and I think it might change a little but not much about
our band. People will definitely recognize the Gollum sound on future albums.
Thrashpit.com: They say a musician is
his harshest critic. What is your favorite song on the new album and why?
Frank: I like a lot of them to tell
you the truth. A couple of highlights for me personally would have to be
"Ominous Winds," "Blacksmith (Summoning Wrath)" and "The Calm Before" just
to name a few. Overall I think we are happy with the whole album and every
song has its own character and has some unique appeal to it. That is one
thing people recognize about us – no one song ever sounds the same and
every song is different. That is one of our strong points.
Thrashpit.com: The Core is being
released by Rotten Records. How did your deal with Rotten come about and
how do you like it there so far?
Frank: I think they have been treating
us very well so far. They have definitely put a lot of promotion into this
album from what I have seen so far. They have been very helpful. The way
it came about was that in 2007 we sent out whatever we had left of the
Lesser Traveled Waters printings and Rotten was one of the first
labels to respond back. They established rapport with us at that point
and they kept in touch with us, checking in every few months. By early
2008, we had recorded a new three-song promo which we sent out to them
and after they heard that their interest was elevated and they came out
to watch us play. We set up a showcase for them in May 2008 and they flew
down and saw us play here in Wilmington. After the show, they expressed
how they really liked us and after three months we were given a contract
and we sealed the deal.
Thrashpit.com: I really like your video
for "Cross-Pollenation" off the first record. Do you have any plans for
a video for one of the songs on The Core?
Frank: Yes, actually we do. We just
started filming some video footage from our CD release show here in Wilmington
last night as well as some footage from the studio shot yesterday before
the show. The video is going to be for the song "Blacksmith (Summoning
Wrath)." It is kind of early to say how it will turn out as we are letting
our videographer run with it but it will be out soon.
Thrashpit.com: Let's talk about you
personally. What bands or artists have influenced you?
Frank: I have always had a wide
range of influences. I do not always listen to a whole lot of metal but
I have always enjoyed playing it. I like bands from Dead Can Dance and
the Cure to old Sepultara and old Slayer. Some of the bands which influenced
me most on the metal side are bands that think outside of the box like
Faith No More or Mr. Bungle. I always liked the Melvins. After that, Helmet
has been a big influence in the meantime.
Thrashpit.com: Are there are musicians
nowadays that you enjoy?
Frank: Certainly. I like Lamb of
God and God Forbid and a lot of these other New Wave of Real American Heavy
Metal bands. I also listen to Tool as I have always enjoyed them. I like
Fantomas, Mastodon, Gojira, ISIS and Neurosis as well. I read about the
new ISIS album coming out this summer and I cannot wait.
Thrashpit.com: With the new record coming
out, the possibility of more shows arises.
Will you guys be touring for The
Core? What sort of gigs do you have lined up?
Frank: We actually have a small
tour booked for early summer. We are kind of waiting to see what happens
as this is the first time we have Rotten behind us and it is 100%. We have
enough clout to book our own shows off the reputation we have built over
the years and we are just looking for that third element to join forces
with us, a good booking agent. In the meantime we are trying to play every
weekend – especially at out-of-town venues – and just book as many one-night
shows as we can until we find a solid agent we feel comfortable them. At
that point we hope to go out on the road for a couple months at a time.
We have been talking to a bigger band about taking us out as they made
an offer to us but I am not at liberty to say who it is right now. It seems
like we will start with a big loop of the Southeast up to New York, Maryland
and Pittsburg before going through Kentucky, Atlanta and the Carolinas.
Thrashpit.com: Last question! What does
the future hold for Gollum?
Frank: I think the future looks
bright and we are excited about the new album. We feel we have a legacy
to carry on since Hunter is not with us. We do feel like he is and we have
something different to offer. We hope that people who like that sort of
thing will see us for what we are and enjoy us. We will see where it goes
from there.
Thrashpit.com: Thanks Frank! I hope
your band reaps rich success, you all deserve it! Best of luck!
Frank: I really appreciate that
and thank you so much for the publicity and your interest in the band.
Definitely keep in touch!
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